Wang Zhiyi 王祉怡

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  1. Justin L

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    Wang Zhiyi 王祉怡
    Age 20
    Born 29/04/2000
    from Shashi, Jingzhou, in Hubei province, PRC.

    Yes, I'm getting ahead of myself by opening a dedicated thread to Wang Zhiyi, but kindly grant me this indulgence , especially after watching how she performed in the just-concluded China National Championships 2020, both the Team and Individual events. Most notably, in my opinion, the way she acquitted herself against none other than Chen Yufei, not once but twice, merits both our recognition and approval.

    True, she has yet to capture any coveted or prestigious world-class titles, so far only a few low-tier international championships to her name, such as the BWF World Tour events, viz., one Super 300, two Super 100 , and several BWF International Challenge/Series. However, I am fairly confident we will be seeing a lot more of her in the international scene and, quite possibly, mounting the winners-rostrum now and then once the global Covid-19 pandemic is more or less brought under control, possibly early or mid-next year when international competition is expected to resume.

    As I've said above, in particular, her two remarkably well-fought and relentless struggle against her famous senior compatriot, the current world-ranked number two in the world (previously WR1), Chen Yufei, certainly convinced me of her undoubted talent and substantive potential to rise through the ranks and be counted among the world's very best in women's singles in the foreseeable future, I very much hope so.

    The said two matches that Wang Zhiyi had with Chen Yufei that bowled me over - the first was in the team event played under the 21-point scoring system was a grueling 94 minutes three-setter, won by Wang Zhiyi, 22-20, 20-22,and 21-19; and the second was the individual women's singles title bout, another protracted struggle lasting 106 minutes based on the 11-point best-of-seven-set scoring system for which Chen Yufei succeeded in avenging her previous defeat by winning 4 sets to 2, the score being, 11-13, 8-11, 9-11, 11-9, 13-11, and 11-9 - can be found here:
    https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4567586608971812?mid=4567593731759246 , the 21-point team event
    and https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4569798160613389?from=old_pc_videoshow, the 11-point individual event. You might want to watch them and judge for yourself.

    At the end of the individual event, both the Women's Singles Champion, Chen Yufei, and the Runner-up, Wang Zhiyi, weighed in on their respective worthy opponents during the post-match interviews as reported here https://sports.sina.com.cn/others/badmin/2020-11-11/doc-iiznctke0819138.shtml:-

    Chen Yufei commented on Wang Zhiyi and the final match:" Quite an ordeal, especially draining up to G3, but you get used to it once past the extreme point." Playing against Wang Zhiyi, every match was tough, she added," her defense was very good, it was hard to break through, and she made very few unforced errors. I just have to be patient and rally more."

    Wang Zhiyi's comments:" Both of us played very well today. I wasn't as good as her in terms of mentality, pace and the handling of crucial points. There is still a gap between her and me as far as overall experience is concerned and match-experience (how you deal with the match situation - Justin's interpretation)." In defeat, Wang Zhiyi admittedly pointed out the disparity between Chen Yufei and herself, but through one confrontation after another, she also felt she has made progress. " I think I have improved in both offensive and defensive aspects. In the past, once she upped the pace, I might not be able to catch up with her; now I'm able to match up, and can resist her attack."
     
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    I didn't see this coming, now I can't un-see this :eek:. Donald Trump help me please.
     
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    Players like HBJ, GFJ, CYY, HY, ZYM need to spar with WZY more often if they want to consistently beat players like A Yamaguchi, N Okuhara and Ranchanok. Wang ZY has bags of stamina, very good retrieving ability, very good court coverage and can spray her shots all over the court. She is the Chinese version of Ao Yuan ( Okuhara ) as commented on screen by a Chinese fan.
     
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    Incidentally, from what I've gathered, Wang Zhiyi en route to the WS Final beat Han Yue in the QF by 3 - 0 (as the Quarterfinals was based on the best of 5 sets 11-point scoring system) and eliminated Zhou Meng in the semis by 4 - 0 (the Semis was based on best of 7 sets 11-point scoring system) while Chen Yufei accounted for Cai Yanyan's defeat in the other semis by 4 - 1.

    Besides singling out Wang Zhiyi for praise, Chen Yufei also complimented Tan Ning, her team final opponent, for her attacking game.

    By the way, you might like to know that this is Chen Yufei's second China National women's singles title, her first was four years ago at the age of 18, after that she didn't participate in the next three annual events until this year's championship; that is, two titles out of two such tournaments played.
     
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    I agree with Sumanth99 that Wang Zhiyi should try to play a bit more aggressively as it's obvious she is stronger in defense than attack at the moment.

    In passing, Tan Ning is somewhat overly aggressive, often too eager to finish off the rally; in her case, she should be more patient, rally a bit more and wait for the right moment to attack. Then as she improves her game with age and experience, she can gradually increase her aggression by adjusting her game to the right balance that suits her style.
     
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    Born in 2000 I think? :)
     
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    Oops, thanks, corrected.:p:D:)
     
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    It's too much hype about her during CBSL & recent National Championships there where China badminton fans desperately expect and predict that Wang will flying high immediately even take over He BJ to represent CHN in Tokyo OG alongside Chen YF.

    I can't comment or gauge her performance at the moment, need more true validations through BWF tournaments. Indeed, Wang shows promising prospect, can say the best among her peers in CBA National team but she's not exceptionally talented.
     
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    It is just the on-screen comment of one Chinese fan. I saw it and it was made in the context of the current standard of Chinese woman's badminton. Most Chinese fans including those in this forum are happy with her improvement. How she will fare against foreign players is a different thing. We will have to wait and see. As far as I can remember she had beaten A Yamaguchi and Ratchanok Intanon before, each of them just once. That alone is not a reliable measure of how good she is or going to be. I agree that as of now she is a promising player.
     
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    Do you mean through weibo? I read somewhere in this forum : https://bbs.badmintoncn.com/forum-81-1.html
    It's really tough to find a gem but yeah Wang ZY sparks promising outlook to accompany Chen YF in efforts to regain CHN hegemony in WS category which practically faded away since Marin, Tai TY, Intanon, etc emergence in mid 2010's.
     
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    You're right, I've even forgotten about it - Wang Zhiyi beat Akane Yamaguchi 17-21,21-11 and 26-24 in their only encounter so far at the INA Masters on 6th January, and is level with Intanon Ratchanok one match apiece in two meetings both in January this year with WZY taking the first one 19-21, 21-11 and 22-20 on Jan 9 at the MAS Masters, and IR the second one 21-12 and 22-20 on Jan 18 at the INA Masters.

    Btw, Wang Zhiyi also bested Sayaka Takahashi 21-19 and 21-11 at the same INA Masters. Incidentally, these are the only two BWF World Tour events WZY played, both Super 500 tournaments in 2020 before the global pandemic halted further international competition after the All England which she wasn't qualified to play as it was a Super 1000 event.

    Such results certainly bode well for the up-and-coming Wang Zhiyi going forward.
     
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    [QUOTE="Justin L, post: 2793833, member: 86374"
    Btw, Wang Zhiyi also bested Sayaka Takahashi 21-19 and 21-11 at the same INA Masters. Incidentally, these are the only two BWF World Tour events WZY played, both Super 500 tournaments in 2020 before the global pandemic halted further international competition after the All England which she wasn't qualified to play as it was a Super 1000 event.

    Such results certainly bode well for the up-and-coming Wang Zhiyi going forward.[/QUOTE]

    She participated All England 2020, lost two straight-games to the reigning Olympic Champ.

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    She participated All England 2020, lost two straight-games to the reigning Olympic Champ.

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    Oh, I see, it wasn't reflected in another website that I came across, so I assumed she didn't play there. Thanks.
     
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    I do not read comments in Weibo and Bilibili, I just scour them for videos of badminton matches which I have not watched and share them if I find them interesting, As for the comment suggesting that HBJ be replaced by WZY for the Olympics, I saw it made on screen by one fan. I am not aware that there are comments in Weibo or other Chinese media saying that WZY is a promising prospect to help restore Chinese women's dominance in Badminton ( I won't use the word hegemony) alongside CYF. It is only to be expected that some Chinese fans in Chinese social media would be carried away by WZY's present form which resulted in their patriotic comments . We may not agree with their comments but we can surely cut them some slacks as they are mostly young people, may be even kids.
     
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    She is 20 years now.
    I think her seniors were way superior to her at this age .
    Only time will tell. But I can see her winning tournaments in the coming years provided she gain experience.
    But we know top 7 or 8 WS players are not easy to deal with.
     
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    Let's say Wang Zhiyi is on the cusp of a breakthrough, of being a star, in my opinion. Time will tell.
     
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    By her seniors are you referring to Chen Yu Fei and He BJ ? If so I have to disagree with you. Surely the CYF of today is much better than the CYF of 2 years ago and WZY was fighting tooth and nail with her for every point in their recent encounters, so WZY cannot be way behind CYF when the latter was 20. If you are referring to LXRui when she was 20 then I will say LXR was much better. Anyway the player to beat for every WS upstart is An SY.
     
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    Yes, Li Xuerui , born 24 Jan 1991, was phenomenal around age 20, an mazing winning streak all the way to her London Olympic gold at 21 in her maiden appearance, simply unstoppable.

    Unfortunately, thereafter she failed to live up to her fearsome reputation and disappointed in one after another major championships, both the World titles and Olympics, which I attributed mainly to her lack of mental toughness and bad luck (injury at the Rio'16 Olympics).

    I agree to consider An Se Young, now age 18, the benchmark for any of her contemporaries, say for those 21 and under, as they will largely be in the same era, for example, Wang Zhiyi (20), Han Yue, Cai Yanyan, Kim Ga Eun, Gregoria Mariska Tunjung, Yeo Jia Min, Phittayaporn Chaiwan (19), just to name these few. At the moment, An SY is the most impressive, admittedly, except that child prodigies tend to rise and peak early compared with the normal or typical player, which means we may not be comparing apples to apples when we just take age into account. Remember, Intanon Ratchanok was the youngest singles world champion ever at age 18 years, 6 months and 6 days.
     
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    Following CBSL and CHN National Championships hype amid international badminton tournaments vacuum...
     
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    Wang Shixian, LXR and Wang Yihan
     

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